JamesB Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 Does salted cured meats work in the pemmican recipe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33tmaan Posted June 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 I don't think so, no. Only meat nuggets and aged meat nuggets. I guess I can add cured meat nuggets to the recipe as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, l33tmaan said: I don't think so, no. Only meat nuggets and aged meat nuggets. I guess I can add cured meat nuggets to the recipe as well. Yeah I don't think it should prevent you from making pemmican. I ended up with a ton of salted meats after going on a hide run and now I don't know what to do with it! You can't really make it into sausage either correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33tmaan Posted June 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 No, and I don't plan on that. You SHOULD be able to bread and fry it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 Bread it huh? I'll give that a try. I wanted to make a bunch of pemmican for a long trip across the map. But I'll manage. I just wanted to check to see if I was doing it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33tmaan Posted June 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 I recommend bringing some juice or wine bottles along with you, that should keep for a long time, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33tmaan Posted June 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 Oh! Hardtack is grain that's intended for long journeys, as well. You may want to consider those, they keep FOREVER. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 Oooh yeah! I do have a lot of grain too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33tmaan Posted June 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 So we've got cured meat and pemmican for protein, dried fruit and pemmican for fruit, and hardtack for grain... what are some long-term forms of vegetables and dairy I could add? I know some kinds of cheese last a very long time. I think I had a brick of parmesan in my fridge for a couple years. Pickled veggies are alright, but I'm thinking of something that lasts drastically longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, l33tmaan said: So we've got cured meat and pemmican for protein, dried fruit and pemmican for fruit, and hardtack for grain... what are some long-term forms of vegetables and dairy I could add? I know some kinds of cheese last a very long time. I think I had a brick of parmesan in my fridge for a couple years. Pickled veggies are alright, but I'm thinking of something that lasts drastically longer. Pickling is definitely the main long term storage for veggies. It's a good way to preserve eggs too. I remember spending summers at my grandmothers helping her pickle and jar her garden veggies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33tmaan Posted June 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) But that's already in the game! Wait... pickled eggs aren't in the game... Edited June 26, 2021 by l33tmaan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, l33tmaan said: But that's already in the game! Wait... pickled eggs aren't in the game... Oh you're right! I've never used it because veggies last a very long time on their own in the game. I think that should change. There's no way that all my onions and carrots last for 90 days even in storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33tmaan Posted June 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 I agree, honestly. It makes sense for grain to last a long time, but vegetables? Maybe longer than fruit or meat, but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 @l33tmaan Just curious. Can the mixing bowl be automated like the quern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33tmaan Posted June 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Yes, that's the point of the one on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, l33tmaan said: Yes, that's the point of the one on the table. I was thinking of being able to feed it with a hopper and have it dump the output into chests. But now that I think about it I don't see how that would work considering it's input is more complicated than the quern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 So one concern about liquids. The fact that bottles don't stack kind of makes them really unattractive to use. Is there something I'm missing with them? Maybe a better drinking vessel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33tmaan Posted July 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Define "better". It already holds an entire liter of liquid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Well, 1 liter of carrot juice will only refill maybe 1/3 of your health bar at most. I think my main issue though is that bottles don't stack but other food items do. You can even stack bowls of food as long as they have the same food in them. Either way, it's not a huge issue. I just wanted to mention it as a suggestion for possibly making liquids a bit more useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33tmaan Posted July 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 I totally see where you're coming from, but I think the issue is that you can't stack liquid containers together once they have something in them. Pretty sure that's vanilla behavior. However, I could make liquid portions smaller, so you could fit 10 portions of juice in a bottle instead of just 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 It would probably help if the game had a thirst mechanic. One liter of any liquid would be good for a few days. But more portions might work but I wouldn't want you to throw off your mods balance. How are you factoring the satiety? I just looked it up and a liter of carrot juice (for example) would equal about 400 real life calories. That seems to track close to how you currently have it set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33tmaan Posted July 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 I base all values in Expanded Foods on the vanilla saturation values and various multipliers I pulled out of my butt or derived from vanilla. Chopping food and tenderizing meat, for example, gives a +10% nutrition boost. Food that are in meals have 50% more nutrition than cooking them in the firepit (that's from vanilla). Stuff like that. If squeezing more juice into bottles would make them feel better and more worth using, then I'm not afraid to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 I think the nutritional levels are fine the way you have them. I just wish you could stack bottles. Maybe like 5 bottle stacks? If that's not technically possible maybe make it so that 1 liter gives you at least half your satiety back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Washington Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 Hello! First off thank you very much for the work you put into this mod, it's practically essential! Recently on a small server for me and a few other people we've run into a problem where flattening meat boots you from the server due to some form of exception, I was wondering if you had any idea where we could start to find a resolution to this problem or if it's just caused by some other mod conflicts. Thanks in advance to anyone with advice! Quote 3.7.2021 02:02:17 [Event] Player The5thBreaker got removed. Reason: Threw an exception at the server 3.7.2021 02:02:17 [Error] System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. at Vintagestory.API.Common.CollectibleObject.OnConsumedByCrafting(ItemSlot[] allInputSlots, ItemSlot stackInSlot, GridRecipe gridRecipe, CraftingRecipeIngredient fromIngredient, IPlayer byPlayer, Int32 quantity) at Vintagestory.API.Common.GridRecipe.ConsumeInputAt(IPlayer byPlayer, ItemSlot[] inputSlots, Int32 gridWidth, Int32 colStart, Int32 rowStart) at Vintagestory.API.Common.GridRecipe.ConsumeInput(IPlayer byPlayer, ItemSlot[] inputSlots, Int32 gridWidth) at Vintagestory.Common.InventoryCraftingGrid.ConsumeIngredients() at Vintagestory.Common.ItemSlotCraftingOutput.CraftSingle(ItemSlot sinkSlot, ItemStackMoveOperation& op) at Vintagestory.Common.ItemSlotCraftingOutput.TryPutInto(ItemSlot sinkSlot, ItemStackMoveOperation& op) at Vintagestory.API.Common.ItemSlotOutput.ActivateSlot(ItemSlot sourceSlot, ItemStackMoveOperation& op) at Vintagestory.API.Common.InventoryBase.ActivateSlot(Int32 slotId, ItemSlot sourceSlot, ItemStackMoveOperation& op) at Vintagestory.Common.InventoryCraftingGrid.ActivateSlot(Int32 slotId, ItemSlot sourceSlot, ItemStackMoveOperation& op) at Vintagestory.Common.InventoryNetworkUtil.HandleClientPacket(IPlayer byPlayer, Int32 packetId, _lHEgFNKFNR7OybtX0Okb3JLfdZU packet) at Vintagestory.Server.ServerSystemInventory.HandleActivateInventorySlot(_lHEgFNKFNR7OybtX0Okb3JLfdZU packet, ConnectedClient client) at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.ProcessNetMessage(NetIncomingMessage msg, NetServer mainSocket) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33tmaan Posted July 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 And this is ONLY when you flatten it, or when you cut it into nuggets, as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts